Re: FORScan v2.4.1 release notes
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:43 am
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Software scanner for Ford, Mazda, Lincoln, Mercury vehicles
https://forum.forscan.org/
I have a Ford Mondeo Hybrid (MY 2018) do I still need to connect a charger do the 12V battery or since I have also the main one (and when is near empty the engine starts automatically to recharge it) I can simply update modules without it?It is strongly recommended to connect a battery charger to the vehicle battery. It may be not necessary for small firmware, so if you are experienced user and know for sure the battery will be enough, you may not do it. Otherwise, we recommend to connect the charger as a rule.
I've flashed several APIM's with ForScan 2.4.0. I think your post is in the wrong thread and answered your questions in bold text. For your APIM you don't need to worry about the battery. With the OBD Link EX the APIM takes about 16 to 30 minutes to flash depending on which generation hardware it is. I would estimate there's about an 75% chance it will fail first try; they often do, when they fail you can't revert back to the original firmware and you need to try other calibration files from other vehicles to restore it. I wrote a much longer post on the subject in the thread linked below.Vento wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:30 am
I would like to update just the APIM fw... BUT!:
- Is updating other module fw recommended/needed? No
- Are there dependencies between other modules/fw? Yes
- Are there update sequences that should be followed (like before update module X update Y and Z and after go with X)? No
- Are there "relearning"/"reset" phase/action that I have to do after/before a fw update? How to I make my car relearn parameters? Not necessarily for the APIM but at the very least you should master reset it afterwards.
- Is "having always the last version" a good mindset? Seeing that I can update most modules, should I simply do it? No
- Do I lose module configuration? No, but you should master reset it
- After the update can I load an "factory configuration" that 99.9%% sure will work? Does the fw update does this by itself? No & No
- Can I backup my current version + configuration and roll back if necessary? If yes how? Do I need other hw other than the Obdlink EX? Screenshot your calibration before attempting the update, the firmware flash is probably going to fail so don't worry about it because you likely won't able to restore the original files at that point
- What can/should i do if the update fails? It will probably will fail first try, you can force other firmware onto it to bring it back to life and sometimes it takes a lot of attempts.
- From https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/updati ... n-files/17 (specific to update APIM fw but my question is about any module) is see that the process should be "Find the module to update" > "Download" > "Test run SBL" > "Program". Is this the best practice? Never used it. i assume it is not the best practice for the same reason ForScan & UCDSYS is not the best practice: best practice would be to use dealership tools
You seem to be one of the people that knows the most about updating modules. Would you happen to know if you update the TCM does this have any dependencies on the PCM. Well if you update the TCM and don't update the PCM is there going to be any problems that you know of. I have a 2013 Ford Focus SE with an ELS27 adapter and it might be different for this vehicle but if you know anything please let me know. Hope this makes sense. Thanks.Airborne_Ape wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:35 pmI've flashed several APIM's with ForScan 2.4.0. I think your post is in the wrong thread and answered your questions in bold text. For your APIM you don't need to worry about the battery. With the OBD Link EX the APIM takes about 16 to 30 minutes to flash depending on which generation hardware it is. I would estimate there's about an 75% chance it will fail first try; they often do, when they fail you can't revert back to the original firmware and you need to try other calibration files from other vehicles to restore it. I wrote a much longer post on the subject in the thread linked below.Vento wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:30 am
I would like to update just the APIM fw... BUT!:
- Is updating other module fw recommended/needed? No
- Are there dependencies between other modules/fw? Yes
- Are there update sequences that should be followed (like before update module X update Y and Z and after go with X)? No
- Are there "relearning"/"reset" phase/action that I have to do after/before a fw update? How to I make my car relearn parameters? Not necessarily for the APIM but at the very least you should master reset it afterwards.
- Is "having always the last version" a good mindset? Seeing that I can update most modules, should I simply do it? No
- Do I lose module configuration? No, but you should master reset it
- After the update can I load an "factory configuration" that 99.9%% sure will work? Does the fw update does this by itself? No & No
- Can I backup my current version + configuration and roll back if necessary? If yes how? Do I need other hw other than the Obdlink EX? Screenshot your calibration before attempting the update, the firmware flash is probably going to fail so don't worry about it because you likely won't able to restore the original files at that point
- What can/should i do if the update fails? It will probably will fail first try, you can force other firmware onto it to bring it back to life and sometimes it takes a lot of attempts.
- From https://community.cyanlabs.net/t/updati ... n-files/17 (specific to update APIM fw but my question is about any module) is see that the process should be "Find the module to update" > "Download" > "Test run SBL" > "Program". Is this the best practice? Never used it. i assume it is not the best practice for the same reason ForScan & UCDSYS is not the best practice: best practice would be to use dealership tools
Read post #2 here:
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/upgrade- ... ost6356291
I would love to know this as well.
Hello and think you for sharing your experience.FARES2002M wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:13 pm Thanks so much FORScan Team for your tremendous efforts to release FORScan v2.4.2after 7 days only of releasing FORScan v2.4.1 to fix the APIM Firmware update issue. I used both version to update almost all Modules in my 2017 Explorer, but unfortunately the APIM update issue which is the main concern for most of people here have not been solved yet. Thanks again and hope to see a solution for this issue soon
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