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Discussion about adapters and connections - usage, problems, solutions
tractmec
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Brodie M wrote "Do you have a preference of adapter other than one recommended by FORScan? Are there any avenues for bypassing an OBD2 port with USB specific hardware? You'd think that if you could transition from USB to OBD2 with an adapter that there would be no point for an OBD2 port. It's probably not that simple". "There's got to be a better reason other than highway robbery, right?"
I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say Here? The OBD2 standard is a Worldwide standard along with adapters that translate the protocols that are required in order to communicate with it and it must be included(with The port) in all vehicles up to medium Duty Trucks manufactured since it was implemented in 1996! That is not likely to change at any time in the near future!
The only things that have changed are what vehicle manufactures have done with this in terms of using the Communication protocols thru the OBD2 port and adapters for communication with their own vehicles systems(HSCan used by many, MSCAN Ford Only UBP Older Ford F series trucks and VCM2 Only, KLine Single and Dual GMC and Chrysler, ISO Used By several manufactures including older Ford, PWM/SCP older(Before 2004 Ford and some others etc.)!

Both of the FORScan recommendations will handle all of those protocols with the vLinker FS being the most capable of the two(vLinker FS has the added ability of being able to apply the 18 volt FEPS programming voltage for older Ford PCMs and is the only FTDI (ELM327 ) adapter with that ability (So called EEC/PCM version 5 from about 2004 to 2011 capable with FORScan older PWM version in development)!

As To what I would recommend? IF you have the money a J2534-2_Pass thru adapter is the most capable like CarDAQ3 or BOSCH Master Tech2 of which the latter is using much the same hardware as the FORD only VCM2/3(Bosch Builds them the VCM2/3 for Rotunda/Ford) and if you can find a Genuine VCM2(seen Some on Ebay) as they are out of production now in favour of the VCM3!

These are the expensive Professional options!
I have a VCM2 Chinese made Clone but the quality on these has declined significantly since I got mine so I do not recommend them so I will not post a link (Paid $250.00CAN for it in 2016 and so far have no problems with it, reprogrammed a 2005 FEPS F150 PCM with it three times and don't ask))

For the price and because it can do nearly everything a J2534Pass_Thru Adapter can do, I would look at the vlinker FS and although I do not know what your definition of High Way Robbery is, but if you are in North America you can get an FS at the US VGate mall here https://vgatemall.com/products-detail/i-19/!
If $32.99US is "High Way Robbery to you then I have no answer for you($46.99 Can$ At Amazon.ca)!
Brodie M I tried to attach a compressed .pdf of a screenshot of the issue I'm dealing with on the software, but the attachment limit for this board has been reached. It's only 57KB, I think.
That has been happening to all of us for the last few months and is a problem with the forum server attachment quota being full not with an individual post!
The Team will have to talk to the Forum Hosting company for more Attachment room(probably involves a more expensive hosting fee)!

If you have a Drop Box or Photo bucket account or can set one of those up, post your attachment there and drop a link to it in your next post and we will try and give you further help!


One little tip, Windows 10 has a nice Screen capture program called "Snip and Sketch" (WIN KEY+Shift+S or if in Windows 7 look for "Snipping Tool") that can capture the FORScan screen(Or Any screen) and save it in a .png format that just about any Attachment/ online Photo Storage system can handle! Have a look!
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Re: No adapter found. Please check connection and try again.

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How can you tell if an adapter is counterfeit or not before you buy? Where do I buy a legitimate adapter? How do you attach .pdfs to this forum?
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Brodie M wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:50 pm How can you tell if an adapter is counterfeit or not before you buy? Where do I buy a legitimate adapter? How do you attach .pdfs to this forum?
First Answer: Do not buy on Ebay:

Second Answer buy The Recommended EX USB adapter only from OBDlink.com Link here: https://www.obdlink.com/products/obdlink-ex/ or from Amazon

For the vLinker FS this link: https://www.vgatemall.com/products-detail/i-19/(also Posted in my original reply) or from Amazon or if in Euro market at the vGate Manufactures main Page here: https://vgate.pl/product/vgate-vlinker- ... ps-ms-can/ ! It is also the least expensive and for older PCM work the most capable of the two!

Those two links above are the product pages for the Recommended adapters from the FORScan Product and Down load page: https://forscan.org/download.html! Both of those above adapters have had development input from the FORScan team!

Again: the Forum Attachment button and Board has not worked for many of us for quite some time(just tried it with a PDF of the Fuse chart from my Fusion and got the yellow triangle and this: Error Sorry, the board attachment quota has been reached).

The only other way is to post your PDF to a third party web site like Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/ or Photobucket https://photobucket.com/ and copy and paste the link to the PDF in a post to this thread!

Other Forum members may have some other Ideas!

I really do not know how to make this any more clear!!!
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Do you think anyone on here would have any use for a Mocatec USB ELM327 OBD2 Adapter? Do you guys sell things on here? Ebay, perhaps. What do you think?
Thanks a lot for your critical response.
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Re: No adapter found. Please check connection and try again.

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tractmec wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 6:20 pm
Brodie M wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:50 pm How can you tell if an adapter is counterfeit or not before you buy? Where do I buy a legitimate adapter? How do you attach .pdfs to this forum?
First Answer: Do not buy on Ebay:

Second Answer buy The Recommended EX USB adapter only from OBDlink.com Link here: https://www.obdlink.com/products/obdlink-ex/ or from Amazon

For the vLinker FS this link: https://www.vgatemall.com/products-detail/i-19/(also Posted in my original reply) or from Amazon or if in Euro market at the vGate Manufactures main Page here: https://vgate.pl/product/vgate-vlinker- ... ps-ms-can/ ! It is also the least expensive and for older PCM work the most capable of the two!

Those two links above are the product pages for the Recommended adapters from the FORScan Product and Down load page: https://forscan.org/download.html! Both of those above adapters have had development input from the FORScan team!

Again: the Forum Attachment button and Board has not worked for many of us for quite some time(just tried it with a PDF of the Fuse chart from my Fusion and got the yellow triangle and this: Error Sorry, the board attachment quota has been reached).

The only other way is to post your PDF to a third party web site like Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/ or Photobucket https://photobucket.com/ and copy and paste the link to the PDF in a post to this thread!

Other Forum members may have some other Ideas!

I really do not know how to make this any more clear!!!
Well, I'm sorry you felt the need to repeat yourself. I don't think your initial response loaded for me before it was too late. I'm sorry.
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tractmec wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 6:20 pm
Brodie M wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:50 pm How can you tell if an adapter is counterfeit or not before you buy? Where do I buy a legitimate adapter? How do you attach .pdfs to this forum?


Second Answer buy The Recommended EX USB adapter only from OBDlink.com Link here: https://www.obdlink.com/products/obdlink-ex/ or from Amazon
Do you need HS-CAN and MS-CAN? This scanner states that it has MS-CAN. Does that mean that that is a bonus feature or that it only has that quality?
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Brodie M wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:37 pm
tractmec wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 6:20 pm
Brodie M wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:50 pm How can you tell if an adapter is counterfeit or not before you buy? Where do I buy a legitimate adapter? How do you attach .pdfs to this forum?


Second Answer buy The Recommended EX USB adapter only from OBDlink.com Link here: https://www.obdlink.com/products/obdlink-ex/ or from Amazon
Do you need HS-CAN and MS-CAN? This scanner states that it has MS-CAN. Does that mean that that is a bonus feature or that it only has that quality?
MSCAN is an OEM("Original Equipment Manufacturer" network protocol, Meaning Ford is the only manufacturer that uses it and it is not part of the OBD2 Required protocols like PWM or by it's ASAE and OBD designation J1850 Or HScan which has replaced PWM as an OBD standard)!

All the so-called ELM327 based adapters support the OBD legislated protocols listed on the OBDlink-EX web site specifications as those are required(some are very poor at even that)! Protocol MSCAN was a Ford protocol that was added to Ford networks in about 2003/2004 and was never a part of the OBD2 standard so the original ELM adapters never included it as standard although it was found it could be manually switched using the HSCAN in the ELM327 chip, between the DLC connector relevant pins( HSCAN 6 and 14 to MSCAN pins 3 and 11) using the toggle switch!

This changed when FORD began using larger data packets and installing more protocols located on the MSCAN network (I believe I related that in previous post as in HSCAN 2, 3 and 4 Plus LIN or "Linear Interconnect Network"), thus the toggle switch became far too slow for FORScan to access these networks effectively while switching manually with the toggle switch( in some cases the wait for the toggle to be moved would be too long and cause FORScan to time out and declare the module it was asking to read/write to be "AWOL" while waiting and the whole process to fail causing bricked modules and all sorts of undesirable things so hence the Error message with your MOCATECH adapter)!

I hope that clears up the question?
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Can we sell things on here?
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Brodie M wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:32 pm Can we sell things on here?
This forum has no Sellers thread so I would say NO!
Peddle it on Ebay if you are so wanting to be rid of it and given what I have replied to you I know of no serious Forum members who would even want it!!

I have three adapters sitting on my shelf two of which started out being semi useful in the early days of FORScan the third is a reminder that learning is sometimes a Pain!

An OBDLink SX which has no MSCAN support built in and is very difficult to add the MSCAN switch or RTS relay and I ruined the PC Board attempting to add the RTS relay see this thread: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8510! OBDlink still sells the SX version for some reason!

An earlier OBLINK ELMscan5 that I successfully added the Toggle switch and worked well until FORScan(I get the Discalmer message) progressed beyond its capability! It still works well for what it was designed for!

Then I discovered that two FORD vehicles(2003 and 2005) I have have/had have a UBP network(relax yours does not have it as it was dropped in favour of MSCAN in 2008) that only Ford VCM2 or VCM2 clone(some poorly) can access so I tried a VXDiag VCXnano Adapter(https://www.vxdiagshop.com/wholesale/vx ... -in-1.html) and found it to be a pain to set up and it would not even connect to the two UPB vehicles I bought it for with out crashing both IDS(It came with patched version) and Forscan(still on my shelf to remind me that learning is hard sometimes)!

Worked just Fine on the 2010 Fusion

My experience: avoid this thing like the plague(they have since put a disclaimer on the web site for this specific older ford "light and super duty" And no UBP support problem Thanks guys)!
I would not put any one else through that experience either!

The other thing was that all my vehicles would need FEPS support for any PCM changes and at the time, again the only support for that from FORScan was the VCM2 or a clone(some had trouble supporting this) or a J2534-2 Passtrhru adapter!(Ford Dropped FEPS starting in 2012 so if your DLC connector is missing pin 13 you don't have it)

The Vgate vLinkerFS adapter does support this process in FORScan, The Obdlink EX does not!

My final solution was Two Board VCM2 clone which I have had very good luck with so far(Programmed the 2005 F150 PCM three times, nothing to do with the adapter, My own stupidity so don't ask)!
Cant find them any more in a quality I would recommend! (This site https://www.obdii.shop/ still sells them as well as a VCM3 clone but you takes your chances as always with clone copies of any thing)!

Just relating this as you are not the first to find out the hard way, about all the crap there is out there and you likely will not be the last.(Read these threads for some more of what The team has had to go through: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1904! And viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17072)

Sorry you have had such poor experience with this but it will get better if you keep at the learning!
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Re: No adapter found. Please check connection and try again.

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Have you needed to download anything so that your computer recognizes the USB of any of your adapters? I'm getting a "No adapter found." issue. I think I've set all of the correct parameters on the software.
Thanks.
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